Comments for Crime wave hits downtown at http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com , comment 1 to 22 out of 20 comments http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com Thu, 20 Nov 2008 00:42:07 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.2 http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/20080805144848/local/news/crime-wave-hits-downtown.html#comment-9816 Welcome to the b#@*h & stich section all you ever see these lil girls do here is complain complain wonk wonk wonk,heeey i've got an extra set of knitting needles ,you want to join. And this is Canada,lets stay Canadian, if you want to live under US laws you more than welcome to hit the boarder anytime. - Vogel Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:15:21 +0100 http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/20080805144848/local/news/crime-wave-hits-downtown.html#comment-9810 When the Stephen Harpies were running their election campaign, they were promising a "get tough on crime" policy. I have yet to see that. Getting tough on downloaders doesn't even come close. I've already written letters to our MP and the PM's office, hardcopies of e-mails dropped into the mailbox, and I intend to write more. I like the "three strikes you're out" policy adopted by the US, and it sounds like it might be working. Naysayers would say this is an expensive proposition, but crime itself is costing us millions every day, through legal aid representation and court costs further exacerbated by inadequate sentencing. Far as costs are concerned, I figure that most of it is diversion of funds towards something that might actually work. The "three strikes" policy, at the very least, gets these scumbags off the street, and I think it's worth it. The business owners, as travhops said, are stuck, and with the cost of running a business, they are not getting what they pay for. This is not fair. They deserve better from our city, our province and this country. Our roads need repairing. If we had prisoners working on these roads, under heavy guard, I'm betting tax dollars would be saved in the long run. Forget about paying them. It already costs a fortune to house these losers--let 'em earn it!! - allniter Sun, 10 Aug 2008 10:43:31 +0100 http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/20080805144848/local/news/crime-wave-hits-downtown.html#comment-9750 After Wednesdays shooting I'm guessing you may want to move your office to the back of your store. - dhood Fri, 08 Aug 2008 09:44:03 +0100 http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/20080805144848/local/news/crime-wave-hits-downtown.html#comment-9730 When I said I "considered getting one" I meant a taaser, not a gun. However I am beginning to think if we don't get better laws we might be seeing more vigilante justice. People are sick and tired of criminals and courts putting them back on the streets. I also think our prison system needs to change - quit the nicey, nicey stuff and use the prisons for punishment, a place where they don't want to return. No TV in cells, working to repay a debt to society. - travhops Thu, 07 Aug 2008 22:51:08 +0100 http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/20080805144848/local/news/crime-wave-hits-downtown.html#comment-9709 Like I said Methamphetamine changes the way it goes on the street. More violence, psychosis and addiction. We need to start working together as a community with the RCMP, Northern Health, Social Service Agencies and the local Business Association.Maybe I should run for City Council...not... - gloriaharding Thu, 07 Aug 2008 09:07:14 +0100 http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/20080805144848/local/news/crime-wave-hits-downtown.html#comment-9708 Yes exactally....even if the cops are trying to do their job (god forbid they try too hard) the courts will just turn them loose within such a short time. But as for people doing those crimes....when they just get a tap (not even a slap anymore) on the hand of course they are going to not care anymore. Hell why would you care...eventually if they ever did get fed up with your crap you get a rent free roof over your head...3 meals a day which you dont have to pay for...drugs at hand as well...you might have to do a few favours but hey....isnt that the kind of life they like? But thats only IF the courts get fed up with them people and do their job. Criminals get away with too much crap these days and the people who are law abiding are the ones who get treated like dirt from the cops and courts. Too much corruption in my opinion. - AmberEN Thu, 07 Aug 2008 09:00:15 +0100 http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/20080805144848/local/news/crime-wave-hits-downtown.html#comment-9706 I considered that after a rather brutal robbery but thankfully my son talked me out of it. He said if they get it away from you, they'll turn around and use it on you. Whenever I've called for emergency help there has been quick response. More guns on the street isn't the answer. The public demanding laws be enforced in the courts is. That's where the pressure needs to be put on. Cops arrest them, courts turn them loose. - travhops Thu, 07 Aug 2008 08:18:31 +0100 http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/20080805144848/local/news/crime-wave-hits-downtown.html#comment-9700 I learned from a past experience that you can not count on cops in a emergency situation. People need to be ready to protect themselves. I was in a local bar and a few guys were in the bathroom playing with taserguns. One of the guys asked me if I wanted to buy a tasergun. I declined however, when the opportunity is presented again I will buy it. A lot of the drug dealers have them and the cops also seem to use them on whomever and whenever they like. Maybe a hand gun would be a wise investment!!!! - jimbo Thu, 07 Aug 2008 06:35:14 +0100 http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/20080805144848/local/news/crime-wave-hits-downtown.html#comment-9699 I just read about that drive by, scary. I hope whoever did that was caught! I know they happen here on occasion but right downtown? Hope they're caught. - travhops Thu, 07 Aug 2008 04:56:26 +0100 http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/20080805144848/local/news/crime-wave-hits-downtown.html#comment-9697 One of the rare occasions I go downtown happened to be this afternoon (6th Aug). An hour and a half after I left downtown, the merchants and customers got treated to a drive-by shooting. Bleedin' lovely. That is a little too close for my comfort. Not exactly an incentive to go back. My "go it, get it and GET OUT" policy worked well for me today. - allniter Wed, 06 Aug 2008 22:50:33 +0100 http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/20080805144848/local/news/crime-wave-hits-downtown.html#comment-9696 I think travhops is right about making this an election issue and getting some people in there to clean the mess up. How much it will work...I dont know but its time to take a stand people. Because this is getting way out of control. We ALL know it...we all see it, read it and hear it. Its scary to think on how many children are down in that area at the pool...library....ect and how dangerous it is down there. Even if they were minding their own business what would happen if they were in the wrong place at the wrong time? This letter and everyones opinions just gave me the chills. I mean we all know its bad...but to keep reading it....ugh. I really truely do hope that one day ALL of Prince George can be something to be proud about and not just the downtown area. Because the crime is spreading like wild fire. Sure downtown is worse but it is spreading and if downtown is not fixed....what next? - AmberEN Wed, 06 Aug 2008 22:14:21 +0100 http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/20080805144848/local/news/crime-wave-hits-downtown.html#comment-9694 I think what all these comments are pointing to is that we, the citizens, need to stand together and make this an election issue, then get out and elect a city government committed to cleaning this mess up. "Take back our streets" is a good motto for it. With a concerted effort by citizens, police and the city, it can be done and we can make the downtown something to be proud of again. - travhops Wed, 06 Aug 2008 17:12:06 +0100 http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/20080805144848/local/news/crime-wave-hits-downtown.html#comment-9690 I agree 100% with sledhead, there have been numerous times when I use to work at a liquor store where I would call the police about theft, or have done a citizens arrest and locked the accused in the store until the police came. There response time needs to be quicker, and they need to stop using the excuss that there are not enough officers here in town when I see more than my share standing around all of the time. I remember when I called the police for a girl working a few doors down from me because she had a "scruffy" in her store that was harrassing her. We waited ONE HOUR for the officer who was dispatched to help us, being completly unacceptable especially in a case of harrassment. They walky talked an officer who was on the Hart Highway to come all the way down town to help us out, when you would think that there would have been other patrols cars already in the downtown area. There is unacceptable behaviour coming from the people who are sworn to protect and serve their us. - ccurle01 Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:01:29 +0100 http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/20080805144848/local/news/crime-wave-hits-downtown.html#comment-9689 I do not blame the police. I assume it gets pretty frustrating for them as well, because of our courts. Sure they can arrest people downtown. But in reality, what do these people end up getting for "punishment"? They are "out" the next day, or even that day... and back at whatever it is they were doing. IMO, one of the only ways to clean up downtown is get rid of the establishments that attract these people. Move them all to a different location, AWAY from residential and business areas. They can have their own little community where they can do all the drugs they want, urinate etc in their "own" backyards, and hang out in the seedy bars that they frequent!!!! - djm Wed, 06 Aug 2008 15:59:02 +0100 http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/20080805144848/local/news/crime-wave-hits-downtown.html#comment-9688 I think that people who want to legalize drugs should have to live in downtown PG. Or even Vancouvers Eastside. - RUEZ Wed, 06 Aug 2008 15:56:33 +0100 http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/20080805144848/local/news/crime-wave-hits-downtown.html#comment-9685 In way you do have a point Ape but anyone who's been a victim of crime or attempted crime there will avoid it like poison. I know I do. It's a double-edged sword although I do see the logic in what you're saying. There is safety in numbers, which is why I think events like the Farmer's Market are wonderful. Too bad it doesn't go daily instead of just on weekends. I haven't been there since last summer but the crowds were large and it seems the undesirables stayed away. I think the best post about a solution was the person who recommended lighting up the area with signs again and cleaning it up, putting a large police presence down there. - travhops Wed, 06 Aug 2008 14:28:52 +0100 http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/20080805144848/local/news/crime-wave-hits-downtown.html#comment-9679 The biggest problem with Prince George's downtown is the people, like the people commenting, who refuse to actually help any conditions there. By merely frequenting local downtown businesses and demonstrating a level of community involvement, there could easily be a turnaround. It's absurd to think 'something' will be done if it is proven again and again that no one really cares. Giving it over to drug dealers and criminals by tacitly accepting their presence is the worst crime here. - ApeKillApe Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:52:16 +0100 http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/20080805144848/local/news/crime-wave-hits-downtown.html#comment-9663 sinply put because crackheads dont drive and they cant givem speeding tickets. thats all the cops seem to care about get something stolen itll take them an hour to show up on a good day say someones speeding and theyll be there in a flash sad but true - sledhead37 Wed, 06 Aug 2008 06:33:13 +0100 http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/20080805144848/local/news/crime-wave-hits-downtown.html#comment-9662 Thats why i avoid downtonw at all costs. If i do have to go down that way i rol;l up my windows and lock my doors. cause whats next? You stop at a stop sign and they come up and grab your door and try to take what you have. It happens in big city's when crime gets out of control. Ive driven downtown specially in front of the court house a few times and have watched them do their deals in the wide open!! ive got one question WERE ARE THE POLICE??? i rarley see them down there!?! - DaniB Wed, 06 Aug 2008 05:18:28 +0100 http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/20080805144848/local/news/crime-wave-hits-downtown.html#comment-9660 But good on the city for only worrying about stuff like the performing arts center and bingo halls. - RUEZ Wed, 06 Aug 2008 02:10:32 +0100