Comments for 0 at http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com , comment 1 to 8 out of 8 comments http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:50:19 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.2 http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/20080513130968/local/news/mackenzie-seeks-projects-to-help-create-new-jobs.html#comment-6737 I prepared for mill closures, and unemployment by something my Daddy instilled in all the children in our family, the value of a dollar. Rather than look at something and say I want that, it's only $21.99 and it's on sale, think before spending the money, divide the cost of this item, by your hourly (salary just divide your hrs put in) wage after taxes and decide whether the item is worth the time put in. Like some people work in excess of a week a month just to smoke... - Thoughtful Sat, 17 May 2008 20:14:21 +0100 http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/20080513130968/local/news/mackenzie-seeks-projects-to-help-create-new-jobs.html#comment-6700 There is a chip plant in Mackenzie that all that was done there was chip whole logs to supply the pulp mill (Parallel 55). I know this as I used to work in their fingerjoint facility. No pulp mill means they possibly go down as well. - maverick Thu, 15 May 2008 17:35:44 +0100 http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/20080513130968/local/news/mackenzie-seeks-projects-to-help-create-new-jobs.html#comment-6691 "Thoughtful" hit the nail on the head. I also predict close to the same year before a recovery will be evident, and the governments cannot take care of all those previously employed-as the poor guy who still has a job cannot pay enough taxes to keep the masses of the unemployed. It is actually criminal the money that will go to the 2010 Olympics, and we all pick up the tab. Only the wealthy will be in a position to attend. The poor working stiff will be hard pressed just to make ends meet on the homefront. So it is not a pretty picture?? I guess the Great Depression wasn't either. Some areas will be much better off than those in the North, so make the big decision, stay or go? The majority of workers have not even saved enough to afford to go out and look for other employment. Another sad "sign of the times." Anybody notice how we get hit all the way around the board when times get tough? Higher priced groceries, gas, utilities, travel, etc., and unemployment on the rise? No mercy on any front! Depressing-you bet. - yeahrite Thu, 15 May 2008 08:09:22 +0100 http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/20080513130968/local/news/mackenzie-seeks-projects-to-help-create-new-jobs.html#comment-6677 In todays world, you will not succeed in employee ownership of a mill, in MacKenzie. First of all, where the heck are the chips gonna come from, unless you hire a bunch of wannabes to whittle chips from bug kill with pocket knives. What average worker is gonna jump on a puter, and start dickering prices with buyers whom want a reliable supply of what ever. Give your heads a shake, move the hell out, and get another job, leave your assets behind, you ain't gonna need them. If your in trades, Alberta is the place to go, BC has nothing left for you till at least 2015, then an electrician will be worth $12/hr due to an influx of foreign influence. - Thoughtful Wed, 14 May 2008 23:41:36 +0100 http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/20080513130968/local/news/mackenzie-seeks-projects-to-help-create-new-jobs.html#comment-6672 I agree with Buddy and Maverick. Indeed, Yeahrite has a point, too, but with the ideas put forth by Buddy and Maverick, the mills could conceivably have a better chance of weathering the storm because of first hand knowledge dictating the decisions made. If it does turn into survival of the fittest, worker ownership could be considered a survival strategy...I, too, heard of this strategy working well. Good luck to all mill workers--hang in there. - allniter Wed, 14 May 2008 19:09:23 +0100 http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/20080513130968/local/news/mackenzie-seeks-projects-to-help-create-new-jobs.html#comment-6668 That would be an impressive thing to see unfold if the employees turned around and bought the pulpmill. It is correct, they would know how to run it; everyone from the office staff to the production worker to maintenance department. I have worked in places such as these and have found that many decisions are made by those that have no idea as to what is going on in the plant. Mismanagement at the very top sinks ships very easily. With every employee owning a piece, pride in ownership would arise, and in turn, productivity should increase with less resources to do so. - maverick Wed, 14 May 2008 14:31:27 +0100 http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/20080513130968/local/news/mackenzie-seeks-projects-to-help-create-new-jobs.html#comment-6665 Oh sure, buy the mill, and where does the supply of wood come from, and how can it be delivered by the guy who cannot afford to operate his logging truck? The way prices are increasing it is time to cut back on milk-let alone fuel. Oh yes, and who would run the show-or would some high priced help be required, along with all the records that have to be kept by knowledgeable people. That is not in the average mill worker's job description. Easy to say-but when the rubber hits the road there better be some tread on it-or hitting the ditch is inevitable. If the mill owners could not trim off the fat in order to keep operating-I wonder how the average working man is expected to do so??? When they start selling the mills off, and they are being dismantled-time to look for a new place to live so there is a roof over the families heads, food on the table-and life can go on! The days of JOB SECURITY are long past. We could be facing SURVIVOR OF THE FITTEST days. Yep-it really has become a JUNGLE out there. Good old REALITY-a slap in the face. And forget about turning the other cheek-it will get slapped also. I hope it is not for real-or for long, but it sure does look like the bubble has burst. It's a big world-time to have a look. - yeahrite Wed, 14 May 2008 14:09:46 +0100 http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/20080513130968/local/news/mackenzie-seeks-projects-to-help-create-new-jobs.html#comment-6627 Why don't the workers buy the Pope and Talbot mill? It was making money and they certainly knew how to run it. Part of that two million could go to that. It's been done with other mills. Come on workers. Buy the mill from the receiver. It's been done before and worked out well. I don't know if the Ft. St. James people would want to buy a sawmill when they're losing money but they could give it a try. - Buddy Wed, 14 May 2008 05:09:24 +0100