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written by allniter , June 15, 2008 (10:20:19 PM)

One band (I believe it was Wolven--correct me if I'm wrong) disclosed that for every CD sold, they only get two cents. And, it is also worth mentioning that Shiela Copps, while she was the Minister Of Culture, tabled a bill introducing an artist's levy on every blank CD-Rom sold, which was to be a fund intended for distribution amongst artists to offset the losses brought about by P2P file-sharing. Not 100 percent sure, but I believe it amounted to around 21 cents per disc.

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written by allniter , June 15, 2008 (10:21:10 PM)

That artists' levy is still in effect to this day.

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written by RUEZ , June 16, 2008 (12:00:42 AM)

Although I don't agree with this bill as it is to strict especially with unlocking devices and use of songs you've purchased. If it weren't for the free loading pirates out there stealing music, video's and software there wouldn't be a need for such a stringent law.

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written by FSJ , June 16, 2008 (06:55:47 AM)

"Ottawa wants to make it illegal for you to share your digital music library with a family member or friend."
-.. You can do this as long as its your material that you have purchased and as long as you dont make it available to the public or distribute it without the consent of the copyrite holder. Its the downloaders who arent paying for copyright material and putting those files up for mass downloads on download databases that they are targeting.

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written by allniter , June 16, 2008 (06:58:16 PM)

Artists like Radiohead and Nine Inch Nails have taken to offering new material through P2P sharing, and found this to be a phenomenal way of promoting a new release disc. Other artists have taken it to another level--offering MP3 files in exchange for voluntary payment and the return on these offerings have been surprising lucrative.

The record labels have become dinosurs--they failed to keep up with internet technology and still do their marketing on 20th century disc technology, and with the advent of internet technology, their greedy noses are out of joint because the ARTISTS are getting the money, which, IMO, is where it should go.

This is not about protecting artist's rights, it's about corporate greed south of the border. Understandably, a great many artists are opposed to Bill C-61, because they figure that downloading is a small price to pay as opposed to their fans being under threat of litigation. The music scene is evolving, whether the labels like it or not, and Canadians should be allowed to progress along with it.

With this draconian bill, this new way of promotion will be stifled, and Canada will be dragged down, artistically speaking, which, IMO, makes piracy a moot concern. As a musician, I would be willing to put up with the piracy as long as my music was heard. Just the cost of doing business--big fat hairy deal. Bill C-61 kills the dream.

allniter
written by RUEZ , June 16, 2008 (07:28:22 PM)

Please send me a free copy of your work. I will put it on the internet and allow everyone to download it for free, and you won't get a dime for it. Do you think that's fair?

RUEZ
written by allniter , June 16, 2008 (09:09:41 PM)

How 'bout this?--I upload it onto Jamendo (when it's ready, which it won't be for awhile yet), you become a member (that's free--it's a Creative Commons site), then when you download the work, and you like it, you can either pay what you think is fair, or keep it for your personal use and enjoy it anyways, even if you can't afford to pay anything? Money will not be a barrier to my music--I won't have it!

The idea is EXPOSURE, my friend. You wanna pirate it? Fill yer boots, good buddy!! That will distribute it even more, and then perhaps the live shows will follow, and that's where the big bucks are made, amigo! I'll still hold the copyright, and if you're dumb enough to try to pass it off as your work, there are laws in place already to deal with you, and the charge would indeed be a copyright infringement called PLAGIARISM.

So, in that light, you're welcome to it as long as you don't use it to fake your own talent.

Meanwhile, just for fun, google Canadian Music Creators Coalition, a lobby group protesting this bill. The membership consists of a lot of mainstream Canadian artists, including (drum roll please) Avril Lavigne--check out what they say about it. Trust me, it's a great read--and very informative.

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written by allniter , June 16, 2008 (09:13:11 PM)

BTW, Ruez, if I want to upload a song on Limewire as a SAMPLER, and you want to share it, that's cool too. Comes to that EXPOSURE thing again ;)

FSJ
written by allniter , June 16, 2008 (09:27:13 PM)

Sorry, FSJ, your post is not entirely accurate. While thay have always gone after pirates who mass-upload copyrighted material, but while you may be allowed to share files with your family, you're prohibited from disabling the DRM's that ordinarily prevent you from copying a work at all. In other words, if you rip a song from a CD to share it online, you must first bypass the protection protocols (and most computers have this ability built in). You don't break the law ripping and sharing the song, but you do break the law when your computer utilizes the technology that makes it possible to do so.

Google "Michael Geist" and check out his blogsite. There's more information there. He is the most predominate opponent of the bill, and attends sessions in the House Of Commons.

oops-lousy editing on my part
written by allniter , June 16, 2008 (09:39:01 PM)

sorry, that should read "you don't break the law >rippingripping and sharing

fun fact
written by allniter , June 17, 2008 (04:30:22 PM)

...just talked to an acquaintence who hails from merry ol' England--there, apparently, it is illegal for a cell phone service provider to put a lock on the phone (!)...the exact opposite of what this proposed bill will do to cell phone users here.

I'll try that correction again, too (I love technology but sometimes it doesn't love me):

It should have read "rip" only, not "rip and share online". It is still legal to rip a DVD into you 'puter, but Bill C-61 adds a twist, and it's not very nice.

glad to see
written by Mikey , September 10, 2008 (08:45:53 AM)

The federal government is finally noticing copyright law and giving it some teeth. This might make it worth the effort and expense to initiate a copyright infringement against the Citizen with regards to some of the maps that they use.