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Booze breath testers installed Print E-mail
Written by FRANK PEEBLES
Citizen staff
  
Monday, 02 June 2008
PINE CENTER
Booze breath testers installed - Co-owner Benita Le Morvan demonstrates the Breath Alcohol Tester at the Generator. (MAH_4535.jpg - 1888959)
Co-owner Benita Le Morvan demonstrates the Breath Alcohol Tester at the Generator. (Citizen photo by David Mah)

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It won't stand up in court, but you can stand up at some bars and check the alcohol on your breath.
A handful of Prince George bars and pubs have installed breath alcohol tester machines. Patrons plunk a coin in the slot, receive a pre-wrapped straw, insert it into a monitor hole and blow for a certain amount of time at a certain amount of force. The machine gives clear instructions. Once you are done blowing your breath sample, a light will turn on in one of four categories from "No alcohol detected" all the way up to "Do not drive."
The breath testers are not endorsed by police, but if it is done properly you will get a reasonably close estimate of your impairment.
"If you can't blow a proper reading it is better if you take a taxi," said Michael Le Morvan who, with partner Benita Le Morvan, is the distributor of the machines in B.C.
Prince George is the first city in the province to have the machines. Other breath testers have been installed in other bars, but these are the first that use the same technology as the RCMP's roadside screening devices. So far they are at the Generator, the Cadillac Ranch, Tabor Arms Pub, Westwood Pub and Pumphouse Pub with more considering the units.
"It is not a toy, it is not a gimmick," said Benita. "This is accurate. It can't be considered a legal indication, but it does give you some knowledge to go along with your own judgment. We want to keep everyone as safe as possible, so here is another way."
You have to wait at least five minutes after your last drink, or your mouth will be filled with ambient alcohol traces and give you a false high reading. One bar operator took the test during a visit with The Citizen and found it perfectly reflected his alcohol intake.
"It doesn't cost the establishment anything to have the machine on the wall, unless they want to buy their own," said Michael Le Morvan "We want people to become more conscious about their alcohol and their limits because it's a culture in Prince George, people think they can drink and drive and we want to stop that."
RCMP Staff Sgt. Gord Flewelling said the machines are welcome if they promote road safety but he has some concerns. The five-minute wait is one of them. When Mounties stop someone, they wait 17 minutes before administering a breath test. They don't want ambient mouth alcohol giving them a false reading, but they also want to ensure the suspect's buzz is in full effect.
"You may have had a drink and your body has not ingested all the alcohol when you blow into the instrument, so by the time you get down the road a ways, that is when it is starting to take effect," Flewelling said.
"I don't know the quality of these machines and I would certainly not gauge my drinking patterns on these machines. The best idea is don't put yourself in the position of having a drink then getting behind the wheel. Have a designated driver."
The stakes for impaired driving are getting higher, if the threat of death and injury isn't enough. B.C.'s Solicitor General announced in February that authorities can now order the forfeiture of vehicles owned by habitual impaired drivers, whether they are involved in a crash or not.
Seizing vehicles is another in a list of consequences against impaired drivers, including loss of license, fines, jail time, cost of any damage done and the suspect's legal costs.
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written by RUEZ , June 02, 2008 (08:49:30 PM)
If you have reason enough to use this machine, you just shouldn't be driving.
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written by oceanpearl53 , June 02, 2008 (10:48:01 PM)
Ruez,you have hit the nail on the head.Nuff said!
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I like it
written by Pylot Project , June 03, 2008 (09:18:32 AM)
Sometimes people need more than the blatantly obvious to change their course of action. I think this is too long in coming and "high praise" for the local bars (first in BC) to go forth with this kind of thing. My only concern would be how long they last before being destroyed through vandalism, essentially rendering them useless.

I'm still a firm believer this kind of technology should be installed in all vehicles, but there are those who believe this infringes on their personal rights.
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Interesting
written by Groovie Girl , June 03, 2008 (01:34:03 PM)
I like the idea, but can't help but be skeptical. Will those who drink and drive bother to even use it? Not likely - they do not care about human life and most certainly will not bother to plunk in a coin and check. If they do indeed use the machine, will they take it seriously? On the other hand, alcohol affects everyone differently and a person who has had one or two drinks may be very surprised to learn that their alcohol level is higher than it should be in order to drive, even if they do not feel impaired.
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How about
written by P val , June 03, 2008 (01:50:42 PM)
I can see a line up as to who can get the highest reading. But really whats the problem.. If you want to know if you are able to drive or not this is the best way to check. Those who say "if you are using it you shouldnt be driving" wouldnt you rather they DID use it ?
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written by MustBMe , June 03, 2008 (03:21:32 PM)
What about those who dont register as legally impaired, but because of thier alcohol tolerance they are unfit to drive? They may get a false sense of security knowing they are ok legally speaking and drive when maybe they wouldnt have without the reading. I think it is a waste of money personally. Those who drink responsibly wont drive after drinking, those who drink irresponsibly will drink and drive regardless of some gadget on the wall. A breathalizer in a vehicle makes much more sense. When it comes to keeping drunks off our roads it cant be seen as an infringment on personal rights, since it affects more people than just the driver.
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The final outcome
written by Thoughtful , June 03, 2008 (11:07:20 PM)
Not good, you just finished consuming 2 beer, quickly pop a couple of high roller megashooters, wait 5 minutes and the machine says your safe. So now you quickly walk out out to your car, jump in and point it's nose toward home. Home is 32 minutes away and at the 10 minute mark you see what looks like XMAS lights on the road. The machine said your good so you approach full of bravado, only to get the bracelets slapped on, ..., wake in the morning wondering why your facing an impaired charge, and loss of your lively hood, your a log truck driver, supporting a wife and 3 little children, and live 40 minutes from town on a lonely country road. Now no license, your world as you know it will come to an end, your future, single, welfare, no wife as she's got a new man with a drivers license, and when you do get a job, $1500 per month in support payments for the kids...
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Hopefully the only final outcome...
written by way2sassy74 , June 07, 2008 (12:42:33 PM)
If someone is dense enough to "consume 2 beer, quickly pop a couple of high roller megashooters..." then think they are "safe" is damn lucky if the above is all that happens to them. I see the pictures of people who thought they could drive home and ended up getting into a major collision causing injury and/or death. I have no idea what goes through someones head that has been drinking and decides they are fit to drive home. I consider the ones that only get caught by the police lucky. The ones who wipe out someone innocently driving home and injure or kill them has real problems. You make it sound like loosing your wife, job and paying child support is the biggest downfall of drinking and driving...how about the family that no longer has their 5 year old son...how about the children that just lost their only parent? Many (of course, not all) people of PG need to smarten up and be responsible. Don't rely on a machine to say your safe...make arrangements ahead of time or learn to have fun without getting boozed up. -Vickie Rose
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written by allniter , June 07, 2008 (01:05:32 PM)
way2sassy74 said it all. My heart sank when I read about how that couple lost their little boy and how they themselves were so severely affected by the actions of a guy whose life is dictated by the bottle. As much as I sometimes question the way the RCMP operates, every time they nail an impaired driver, I give them two thumbs up, because every time they do, they potentially save an innocent person from death or disablement. IMO, the bubble gum machine hits the jackpot there.

It remains to be seen whether these machines actually prevent drinking and driving or if they just feed the arrogance that is sometimes prevalent in someone's thinking after they've had "one or two". Hopefully the former prevails. I have no sympathy whatsoever for someone who drives for a living getting behind the wheel after having that one too many, because they can afford the alternatives if they can afford to drink.
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Usless
written by One Happy Camper , June 07, 2008 (01:49:53 PM)
When these new machines read your BAL and you are over the legal limit to drive, the machine needs to grab you by the throat and not let go until you drop your keys into it.
Otherwise they are just an excercise in futility.
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written by MustBMe , June 07, 2008 (08:22:08 PM)
Why are all the people that say these machines are a waste of time have minus ratings, but yet there hasnt been a positive post for these machines since?
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written by oceanpearl53 , June 07, 2008 (11:24:53 PM)
These machines will be abused just like everything else,they will be the new entertainment centre in the bars.Just like pull tabs .There will be bets on who has the highest count or who got the highest count first.How bout the judges and lawyers who get the drunk drivers off??? How bout the drunk drivers that have been charged twenty times and still have not lost the priveledge to drive and are still on the roads??? And they think that a machine will deter intoxicated people to call a cab.Get real.I think not.Can't stop shakin my head with this one.
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written by Another Guest , June 08, 2008 (03:45:19 PM)
I don't understand all these negative comments. What's the big deal? If anything it will be a toy to young people in the bar and maybe serve as a reminder of what they might be faced with if they try to drive home. I can't even count how many times I heard someone say "I think I am still ok to drive," what's the harm in having a way to double check?

If you don't like it, don't use it! It's not costing you anything unless you put money into it.

The reason why there is so many negative comments being voted down is because anyone that disagrees with the regular negative nillies that post here is personally attacked. Unless syou are willing to subject yourself to a verbal lashing by the old crank club you express your disagreement by voting comments down.
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written by oceanpearl53 , June 08, 2008 (05:53:18 PM)
free speach my friend, and are only opinions, no one has to agree. to each their own. Thank you.
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