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Written by tara   
Sunday, 06 April 2008
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I am a homeowner and resident of the Victoria & Oak Street Neighbourhood and am deeply concerned about the amount of garbage and drug parafanilia I have found in our community. Now that the snow has started to melt I find countless needles and drug garbage everyday as I walk my dog. I decided that instead of always complaining and taking the "someone else will deal with it" attitude, Ive decided to do something about it. I plan on writing the city, the local papers, the police to see if there is something that we can do as concerned residents. The city doesnt seem to care about what is going on in this part of the city, there are no garbage cans along the trails, no one from the parks board cleans the trails. I hope to get donations of garbage bags, gloves, garbage collecting tools and sharps boxes so that any volunteers that want to partake in donating their time to help clean up our neighbourhood will be armed and ready. If anyone is interested in spending a couple hours every second Sunday to walk the trails and collect garbage please contact T.J. @ This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it .

 

Lets take control of our community and make it safe and clean for our kids, our dogs, the wildlife and us!

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written by alexvega , April 07, 2008 (05:07:17 AM)
You must be new to the area. Along the Heritage trails there used to be little interpretive signs describing the fauna and types of trees, these were destroyed. Any, but the most expensive garbage cans will be broken and set on fire.
The bushes on both sides of the trail (as it passes through the VLA) are crash-pads for everything from winos to hookers-without-a-home. It is an open sore. The trail should be decomissioned, the canal covered and the entire idea should go back in the filing cabinet.
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Good for you!
written by travhops , April 08, 2008 (10:03:07 AM)
Caring citizens can make a difference. I clean up in my neighborhood and if more people would do the same, we'd all have a nicer, cleaner place to live. On a walk, carry a garbage and make one of those sticks with a nail in the end to pick up garbage safely. Sharps containers are available free of cost at any pharmacy. When one is filled you can return it there for a new one. I "walk" in an electric wheelchair and my Service Dog is trained tp pick up litter for me to throw away. If only everyone did their part! Alex, you have a very negative attitude. Why not get proactive and set an example instead of the defeatest attitude? I'm not about to give up and let the uglies win. That's like saying you're going to stop mowing your lawn because the grass keeps growing.
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written by alexvega , April 08, 2008 (01:26:04 PM)
Do you go onto the heritage trails by the VLA? C'mon it is easy to preach from a wheelchair if you haven't been there. I run these trails all year long.
If you even had a clue about this section of the trail network you wouldn't post such nonsense. It is a drug haven with little "crash and shoot-up areas" all along it. If you walk or run too early in the morning you run into all types of lowlifes.
If you could even get your wheelchair onto it, which you can't, you would be rolled and your "service-dog" who couldn't handle a lab golden-retreiver at spruceland, would be attacked by the roaming pitbulls in the VLA.
I have been in the middle of more than one RCMP pursuit of a purp down the trail while running.
So let me get this straight in order to enable you to travel down this trail on your wheelchair. I will first have to fund the paving over, security and lights so you can feel safe to preach to me about picking up litter? Forget it.
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How insulting
written by travhops , April 08, 2008 (04:46:46 PM)
Sir, your preching from a wheelchair comment is insulting! First of all, yes I run those trails, as do others using wheelchairs and scooters. As a matter of fact, there is a man here in PG who is filming the Heritage Trails as part of a message to disabled people that there is much to offer here for recreation. Secondly I doubt someone with your attitude would deign to pick up a piece of litter. You'd rather step over it and then complain about it. And I doubt you fund anything. Complaining and slinging insults are your forte. People are people, whether walking, using a wheelchair, whatever.
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bravo travhops
written by gsjonuk , April 08, 2008 (06:19:38 PM)
I salute your enthusiastic and optimistic attitude. It certainly defeats the alternative. I look forward to your future posts.
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written by alexvega , April 08, 2008 (06:58:29 PM)
You made two posts...In both you felt the need to point out that you were in a wheelchair. Why? I dunno. Was it important to your point in either thread...? No. In one you complained about a chance encounter with a very tame dog who sniffed you and walked away. It apparently got you and your "service-dog" in a bit of a tizzy, because you wrote a letter about it.
You then proceed to instuct everyone how to train a dog as you have a trained one that was presented to you. Hardly qualifies you to instruct anyone. Then you go on to lecture us all about "doing our bit" to clean up the heritage trail as it winds through a drug infested neighbourhood.When a visit to spruceland was too much.
In each case you made sure we all knew that you are wheelchair bound and even you are able to "do your bit."What was it some kind of failed guilt-trip attempt?
Negative attitude..? nah..I just don't like to blow sunshine up other peoples behinds. Oh and yeah..You sound like one of those wheelchair drivers that drives the wrong way on 5th ave and expects everyone to merge into one lane for you.

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Why so cruel?
written by gsjonuk , April 08, 2008 (09:17:14 PM)
Alexvega, I would find your posts more credible if you found a way to disagree without resorting to personal attacks and disrespectful comments. I'm not asking you to
"blow sunshine" but I will ask you for a little courtesy.

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written by alexvega , April 09, 2008 (04:42:37 AM)
bite me

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written by travhops , April 09, 2008 (06:45:38 AM)
To clarify a few things. Firstly, my wheelchair is my legs. I don't walk or run, I roll. Secondly, my Service Dog was not "presented" to me. With the assistance of a very competent and well known trainer, I trained my dog. Then he had to pass some very difficult tests to be certified as a SD. Secondly, a dog did not sniff me in Spruceland and put me in a tizzy. It was aggressive and after my leashed dog. A dog of any size in a public shopping center should be on a leash. Not just my opinion, it's a bylaw. Thirdly, what on earth do these things have to do with me applauding someone who is trying to motivate people to clean up Heritage Trails? As for driving down 5th wrong way, I don't think so. Prince George is very accessible to chairs and I certainly prefer to be on a sidewalk. Now, back to this original thread. When a time is set for clean up of these trails, as long as they're not too muddy to get my chair through, I will be there. That is a wonderful idea and hopefully a movement that will spread. If we could get someone handy to make us some of those stick things with a nail in the end (sure they have a name) to grab litter with, the job would go much faster. There are also little plastic reachers sold at $ stores. Tara, this is such a good idea and could be expanded to cover all the trails. I think there are a lot of people who care and it just takes someone like you to organize and get the ball rolling.
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Tempting, but no.
written by gsjonuk , April 09, 2008 (05:32:56 PM)
Sorry, you're not my type.
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